![]() ![]() You know, we - I talked to a couple people. So have you seen any successful hacks on ChatGPT?īOND: Yeah. Like, you know, can you get the AI to make up something about a politician, to reproduce, you know, sexist or racist stereotypes? Can you get it to give you private information like a credit card number? And you get points if you're able to do this, and that's what people are competing for.ĮSTRIN: Oh, wow. So they are testing out ChatGPT as well as tools from Meta and Google and other companies to see if they can get them to produce misinformation or bias or security violations. Thousands of people have been lining up for this contest, where the point is to make some of these chatbots go rogue. It's probably the thing that's getting the most attention here. That's a big focus here.ĮSTRIN: So are people actually hacking ChatGPT?īOND: Yeah. I've got everything to secure myself.īOND: Because, of course, you don't want to get hacked at the hacking conference.īOND: On the less-than-personal-device level, there's also a lot of focus this year on artificial intelligence, right? We've been talking so much about, you know, chatbots like ChatGPT, Google Bard. GENESIS GUARDADO: You can, like, hack into Wi-Fis, people's hotel rooms and, like, get your credit card information. She said DEF CON has inspired her to up her cybersecurity. Her name is Genesis Guardado (ph), and she's attending the conference for the first time. People tell first-timers here at DEF CON to be careful of their devices. And in fact, you know, there's a lot of people who are really experienced at breaking into devices. There's an area where you can learn to pick locks. I mean, if you can break into it, it's here - you know, cars, voting machines, medical devices. I mean, people are hacking all kinds of things. Is this, like, people hunched over keyboards? What are - what's going on there?īOND: Yeah. It's, you know, computer scientists, community college students, you know, people who work at federal agencies, even some little kids here.ĮSTRIN: Wow, OK. And people come here from all over the world, and, you know, it's a really interesting array. One guy even had one you could play a video game on. There are people who are selling and trading these, you know, badges with, like, the light-up LED symbols on them. Some people are literally wearing tinfoil hats. Like, watching people walk by me right now, there are folks here wearing costumes. And I will tell you, it does kind of have a bit of a festival vibe. It's part of the series of security conferences that take place in the summer here. ![]() Hi, Shannon.ĮSTRIN: So what's the scene like out there in Vegas?īOND: Well, you know, DEF CON, they call it hacker summer camp. NPR's Shannon Bond is there to find out what people are hacking these days. While at DEF CON I used a secondary burner phone to connect to the convention’s open public Wi-Fi network that with the hope that I would be hacked and get to see what it’s like to be “pwned” by the best hackers around.This weekend, thousands of hackers are gathering in Las Vegas at DEF CON, an annual conference dedicated to hacking and cybersecurity. The conference is also frequented by corporate security experts who want to learn about the latest attacks hackers can launch against their companies and government officials looking to find out more information about potential threats to government infrastructure and networks. There are, of course, some folks at DEF CON who want to hack anyone they can for either fun, to give the person a reminder that they need to be more careful with their online security or just be a jerk and steal their information.īut DEF CON isn’t just a place for hackers. Others just wanted to hear about interesting technologies like bio-hacking. Many were probably more interested in understanding how to prevent malicious, or “black hat,” hackers from getting access to consumers’ private computers and online accounts. Naturally, the majority of the people at DEF CON probably weren’t there to hack my phone. ![]() Since I’m incredibly paranoid, I left for DEF CON 24 with my personal phone in airplane mode and turned off and a “burner” phone that I set up using a fake email address.
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